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From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr (Stefan A. Deutscher)
Subject: Re: Any progress on K95 GUI?
Date: 13 Jul 1999 09:15:54 GMT
Organization: Universite Paris-Sud, France.
Message-ID: <slrn7om4o8.rb2.stefand@ferrari.lcam.u-psud.fr>
To: kermit.misc@columbia.edu
On 9 Jul 1999 14:16:55 GMT, Frank da Cruz <fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> wrote:
>In article <u9yagqyolt.fsf@wcl-l.bham.ac.uk>,
>Brian McCauley <B.A.McCauley@bham.ac.uk> wrote:
>: Now I know the web site says: : When will the GUI version be
>available?
>:
>: As soon as we finish working on it. It is a very big job.
>: All previous estimates of availability have proven somewhat
>: overoptimistic so we will refrain from setting dates until we can do
>: so with confidence.
>:
>: But this web page also says "As of: 20 February 1997".
>: That's almost two and a half years!
>:
[snip]
>Over the past several years, it has seemed to me that two of the main
>advantages of K95 over most other products are:
>
> . The script language.
>
> . The availability of compatible Kermit programs (and script
> languages) for other platforms such as UNIX, VMS, and DOS.
>
>These features, of course, have nothing to do with GUIs. So, to help
Right, but they are, together with the solid emulations of numerous
terminals, important reasons to recommend Kermit all over the place.
>us in our planning, I'd like to know -- in specific, detailed terms --
>what exactly do people expect of the GUI? What GUI features will you
>use that are not already slated for 1.1.18 and that are not in the
>Dialer? How would you rank the desirabality of these features over
>actual functional improvements such as:
> . IBM 3270 and 5250 emulation [YES]
> . Tektronix and Sixel graphics terminal emulation [YES, YES, YES!]
> . Other frequently requested emulations [can't think of any]
> . Windows CE support [couldn't care less]
> . An API allowing control by other Windows apps [see line above]
> . Chinese/Japanese/Korean terminal emulation [as you see fit]
> . Web scripting [vi is fine for me]
> . Built-in FTP client [why not ftp and wget?]
>To start the ball rolling, I think it is apparent that for ease of use, a
>simple popup for making connections (and authenticating) is desirable,
>similar to what you see on the General page of a Dialer entry.
I don't even see that; but maybe it's because I never used it. Why pop
up a menu where one can type 'connect' or any of a few carefully crafted
macro names?
Anyway, thanks for keeping the text mode version in the distribution as
well, it really is most important for me. Full screen speed even on by
todays standards outdated machines (386dx40) running OS/2 is such that
they are absolutely usable, it can be run with the slim text
mode/non-GUI installation of OS/2 (yep, OS/2 can multitask without GUI
just fine). What would be important for me (and enough as a stop gap solution
on the way to a full GUI version of K95), in fact, is a way to do
graphics in a full screen session, much like what I hear about MS DOG
Kermit and what I saw from the commercial emulator EMU4105 etc.
Cheers,
Stefan
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